Why i lose in real account with the same bot winner 100% in demo Account??

I executed 150 times my bot en account mode. All winners, the 150 times..., but in real account exist more looses positions, is like thay binary knows what i'm buying, the period of ticks, and then take all my money. I was working 3 months using and creating bots ...and i thing...that binary could be manipulating the results. could be this possible ?

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  • edited September 9

    have u tried to use bot parallel? (demo / real)

    try and send us results :)

  • Binary.com price as per symbol not per type of account so its same for both virtual and real. Binary.com is regulated company so price manipulation is not possible.

  • nestore, were you able to figure out why the real account was loosing? Do you notice a lot of slippage in the quotes. I also have an EA that is profitable and wondering if I should take it live.

  • Each time that i build a bot..., works good in demo.., when i change to real account...at the beginning i earn...but after 3 or 4 days...start to lose every day...It`s like they discover how it works.

  • @nestore said:
    Each time that i build a bot..., works good in demo.., when i change to real account...at the beginning i earn...but after 3 or 4 days...start to lose every day...It`s like they discover how it works.

    I think this is like a casino the house always wins. If you trade Volatilities then binary.com just makes up the data and can move it every which direction. I have yet to know a binary.com trader who is profitably trading and making consistently making money on binary.com. The only way is to authenticate or have binary.com provide a 3rd party data feed that we can verify the trades on.

  • @nestore can your bot sent to my email pls i need tes in real account

  • @nestore said:
    Each time that i build a bot..., works good in demo.., when i change to real account...at the beginning i earn...but after 3 or 4 days...start to lose every day...It`s like they discover how it works.

    Yeah, @nestore. The same thing has happened to me.

    I have made several programs (I am a C # programmer with experience) and with my virtual account I got many wins but when I switched to the real account, I started with several wins and then I get many losses. Like as if the Binary servers identify my wins with my registered appid, to take them to losses. This applies to applications and bots.

    I assume that they will ask me if I have proof, which I say I do not have, but I am sure that "something" has happened and my programs are not winners.

    I must emphasize that the engineering behind binary.com is impressive, because apparently it learns in a very short time. No program that is built to operate and registered with Binary.com will have a chance to win.

  • Is this correct?

    I have been using demo with bots, and now thinking of going to a real account.

    I was told many times that the digits etc do not differ in any way, between demo and real account? (even by Binary.com)

    Also if they are changing the outcome to make you lose (they are regulated quite highly I've been told), then surely this would change the digits/outcome for everyone? as the same LDP happens on the website around the world, and anyone that is using it?

    Would they pick on one person to make them lose? The outcomes don't change separately for every user so they all lose?

    (This is a genuine question by the way, and the same as you, just wanted to know how it works before using a Real Account ) :neutral:

  • This should be verifiable.

    Just run a second instance of your app on a demo account, from a different ip address, and use the app id from the code samples rather than your registered app id, and log what happens. Using a different ip address and app id should prevent binary.com from detecting that the two apps are identical. To make it even harder for them, the version running on a demo account should take a few more trades at random, and should make a few extra api calls, e.g. to check the account balance from time to time.

    A recent addition to the proposal_open_contract call adds returns details of the ticks around the start and end time. These details are returned when the contract has expired. Logging this info should provide ample details concerning trade execution differences.

  • Ok, wait:

    I don't say that the values of the indices are different in the virtual account vs the real account. I think they are the same. I think (I can not justify it) that the Binary.com system "realizes" how my application works after a certain time of using it both in the virtual account and in the real account. In other words, it "understands" the strategy that I have applied to my application, and when the application is running with the real account, it establishes a "defense" against profits.

    I know it sounds complicated that this "defense against winnings" works simultaneously for all the users that are placing (at the same time) contracts to win, but I am sure that all the applications (with the strategy that I have codified) become " losers "after a short time of being running on the real account.

  • give us some news about this thx you

  • It is common knowledge that the market behaviour changes over time and that many strategies that work today will not work next week or next month. This is one of the reasons developing a robust automated strategy is so hard.

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